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Re: Making a Murderer (netflix)

Postby wags83 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:08 am

Wallinguana wrote:I don't like that they never accused anyone else that lived on the property. Brendan's brother and step dad had pretty weak alibis of "We can verify that we saw each other driving and we both went hunting" and the evidence seems to point towards the body being burned elsewhere on the property and moved to the burn pit. Seems like something to look into.

That's one of my biggest issues too, why were there burned remains in 3 separate places? I don't know what to think. There's too much that I don't know.

I do agree that Brendan probably wasn't involved. He's just too dumb to live.
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Postby jathko87 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:12 pm

wags83 wrote:
Wallinguana wrote:I don't like that they never accused anyone else that lived on the property. Brendan's brother and step dad had pretty weak alibis of "We can verify that we saw each other driving and we both went hunting" and the evidence seems to point towards the body being burned elsewhere on the property and moved to the burn pit. Seems like something to look into.

That's one of my biggest issues too, why were there burned remains in 3 separate places? I don't know what to think. There's too much that I don't know.

I do agree that Brendan probably wasn't involved. He's just too dumb to live.

But here he is. Still living. Sitting in jail, missing his cats
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Postby Tyler » Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:20 pm

wags83 wrote:http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/13/making-a-murderer-steven-avery-s-ex-fiancee-claims-behind-closed-doors-he-s-a-monster.html

Was the same interview I posted this morning not good enough? I guess yours has an article so you don't need to watch all 30 minutes of it.
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Postby wags83 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:29 pm

Tyler wrote:
wags83 wrote:http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/13/making-a-murderer-steven-avery-s-ex-fiancee-claims-behind-closed-doors-he-s-a-monster.html

Was the same interview I posted this morning not good enough? I guess yours has an article so you don't need to watch all 30 minutes of it.

I missed that post completely. Tapatalk must have scrolled right to your long post when I checked it earlier. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me.
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Postby Tyler » Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:52 pm

wags83 wrote:I missed that post completely. Tapatalk must have scrolled right to your long post when I checked it earlier. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me.

Don't be strange. Of course I forgive you.
P.S. You are a good poster.
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Postby jathko87 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:28 pm

I hate Nancy Grace so much I cant even read that interview, let alone watch it. Sorry. But good post. I read the headline.
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Postby jathko87 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:26 pm

The police didn't kill Theresa Halbach. Andrew Colborn located that RAV4 with the assistance of Mike Halbach and Ryan Hillegas who illegally trespassed onto the Avery Salvage Yard on the night of November 3rd 2005. Mike Halbach and Ryan Hillegas suspected something was up since the Avery Salvage Yard was the last place they knew Theresa visited on October 31, Halloween day. They went snooping on the property and found the car. They checked the car and found the key in the ignition and blood in the cargo area. Mike or Ryan removed the key from the ignition to ensure that no one could easily move the car off of the Avery property... freaked out about this huge discovery they call the Manitowoc Sheriffs Department. Andrew Colborn fielded the call that night and went out and met Ryan and Mike at the Salvage Yard so he could view the car for himself. Ryan and Mike show him the car and to be certain its Halbachs he "calls" in the plate number to dispatch. Colborn has to "call-in" instead of "radio-in" the plate number to Manitowoc dispatch because he wasn't in his police cruiser at the moment, but rather on foot and in the "field' on the Avery Salvage property. This mistake places Colborn at the scene and in contact with Halbachs RAV4 two days before it is officially located on November 5th, 2005, by Pam Sturm.

This is problematic for Colborn because all call and radio transmissions to dispatch are recorded and logged onto the Manitowoc Police server. Andrew Colborn is now operating outside of police protocol at a potential crime scene that he has no official directive to be at. He tells Mike Halbach and Ryan Hillegas to basically keep quiet about what they found and not mention to anyone that they were ever on the Avery Salvage property that night. Ryan or Mike turns the RAV4 key over to Andrew Colborn. Mike and Ryan are told to go home. Andrew Colborn then immediately calls Lt. James Lenk and briefs him about the discovery of the Halbach car and breaches of protocol he committed on the Avery property, also about Ryan Hillegas and Mike Halbach being there. Lt James Lenk realizing that Colborn's calling in Halbachs plate is a serious mistake with potential consequences orders Andrew Colborn to remove the license plate from Halbach's car and then report to him immediately.

What James Lenk and Andrew Colborn, or the others for that matter, don't realize at this point and are completely unaware of is that Bobby Dassey and Scott Tadych have kidnapped, raped, shot and then burned Theresa Halbach in the privacy of the gravel quarry off of Jambo road on Halloween evening. They choose to burn her body to dispose of their DNA evidence of the crimes. They hid Halbach's car in the rear of Avery Salvage and wiped it clean of their prints. I believe it is Scott Tadych's idea to secretly transport the cremains of Halbach from the gravel quarry and dispose them into Steven Avery's burn pit. Scott Tadych transports Halbach's cremains in secret by using one of Barb Jandas burn barrels from her yard. Scott Tadych fails to collect all of Halbach's cremains from the original burn site in the gravel quarry, thus leaving some behind that FBI investigators later find... but he also fails in making certain all of Halbach's cremains are out of Barb Jandas burn barrel after dumping them into Steven Avery's burn pit. This is why investigators found small bits of Halbach in Barb Jandas burn barrel. Thus making a total of three sites where Halbach's cremains are found. Scott Tadych and Bobby Dassey are unaware that Ryan Hillegas and Mike Halbach have found Theresas car on the property and that Lenk and Colborn are now involved and in play with their scheme.

By shear colossal luck, two completely independent frame jobs targeting one man, Steven Avery were shaping up into the perfect storm. On one front, from Lenk and Colborn regarding the RAV4, and on the other unconnected front by Scott Tadych and Bobby Dassey regarding the cremains of Theresa Halbach. One party wasn't aware of the other's involvements at any point during the days leading up to the official discovery of Halbach's RAV4 at the Avery Salvage Yard hence why the investigation and murder trial made zero sense to anyone especially the Jury.

None of the evidence could be connected because it was all unrelated -- everybody was guessing. But Buting and Strang had zeroed in on a part of it but couldn't fully form a solid defense to prove it. The Jury couldn't conceive that Manitowoc officers could have conspired to kill Theresa Halbach to frame Steven Avery as Ken Kratz insisted they had to if they wanted to follow the theory the defense presented of the frame up of Steven Avery by Manitowoc officials. And Ken Kratz was right. Imagine Scott Tadych's confused and utter relief when Steve Avery's blood was found in the Halbach car and the RAV4 key found in Steve Avery's bedroom. He  must have been like WTF?!


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Postby Tyler » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:38 am

Steven Avery's Defense Attorney and Prosecutor Address Important Information Making A Murderer Left Out
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Postby Tyler » Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:27 pm

Season 2 confirmed, and a possible movie?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/maki ... ed-7464201
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Postby Tyler » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:28 pm

Netflix Announces New Episodes of Making a Murderer
https://media.netflix.com/en/press-rele ... a-murderer

Netflix today announces that Executive Producers / Directors, Laura Ricciardi and Moira Demos, are in production on new episodes of the Emmy-nominated Making a Murderer. The new installments will take fans of the acclaimed documentary series back inside the story of convicted murderer Steven Avery, and his co-defendant, Brendan Dassey, as their respective investigative and legal teams challenge their convictions and the State fights to have the convictions and life sentences upheld.

This next chapter will provide an in-depth look at the high-stakes post-conviction process, as well as, the emotional toll the process takes on all involved.
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Postby cwilkins88 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:46 pm

Brendan Dassey Convinction Overturned
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Postby wags83 » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:50 pm

I was just coming here to post that!
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Postby Tyler » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:20 pm

Hopefully the state doesn't try to overturn it. Going to be 90 days still
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Postby wags83 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:08 am

We did it, you guys!
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Postby Blue Jackets » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:28 am

I thought he was already going to be released?

"Making A Murderer": Dassey attorneys working to secure his release

Attorneys for Brendan Dassey say they are working to get their client released from prison following a bombshell court ruling affirming that Dassey's confession to the 2005 murder of Teresa Halbach was coerced by Manitowoc County investigators.


On Thursday, the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a lower court's ruling overturning Dassey's 1st Degree Intentional Homicide conviction in the case that was featured in the Netflix docu-series "Making A Murderer."

Action 2 News has obtained the ruling from the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals affirming Judge William Duffin's ruling in a 2-1 vote. The majority of the three-judge panel agreed with Duffin that Dassey's confession was involuntary.

The decision could set in motion the release of Brendan Dassey from prison after 10 years behind bars. Dassey and his uncle Steven Avery were sentenced to life in prison for the murder of freelance photographer Halbach on Halloween of 2005.
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Postby Blue Jackets » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:55 am

'Convicting A Murderer' announced from documentarian Shawn Rech, will retell the 'Making a Murderer' case form the perspective of the prosecution
I didn't use the title from the article because they refer to it as a "sequel" series, but it doesn't appear to be the same production. Netflix is not making this and "Convicting A Murderer" doesn't have a release date or network. Laura Ricciardi and Moira Demos are still working on another season of Making A Murderer for Netflix.
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Postby Tyler » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:15 am

Blue Jackets wrote:'Convicting A Murderer' announced from documentarian Shawn Rech, will retell the 'Making a Murderer' case form the perspective of the prosecution
I didn't use the title from the article because they refer to it as a "sequel" series, but it doesn't appear to be the same production. Netflix is not making this and "Convicting A Murderer" doesn't have a release date or network. Laura Ricciardi and Moira Demos are still working on another season of Making A Murderer for Netflix.
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