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S. Craig Zahler's (Bone Tomahawk) Brawl In Cell Block 99, starring Vince Vaughn

Postby Blue Jackets » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:39 am

A former boxer-turned-drug runner lands in a prison battleground after a deal gets deadly.

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S. Craig Zahler's (Bone Tomahawk) Brawl In Cell Block 99, starring Vince Vaughn

Postby Tyler » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:24 am

I need to watch Bone Tomahawk. I know the twist and it will be too scary for me, but I've heard it's excellent.
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S. Craig Zahler's (Bone Tomahawk) Brawl In Cell Block 99, starring Vince Vaughn

Postby cwilkins88 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:39 am

Tyler wrote:Source of the post I need to watch Bone Tomahawk. I know the twist and it will be too scary for me, but I've heard it's excellent.


It's so intense! Watch it though.
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Re: S. Craig Zahler's (Bone Tomahawk) Brawl In Cell Block 99, starring Vince Vaughn

Postby Corey » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:26 pm

Highly recommend this! Definitely one of the more gorey movies I've ever seen.
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Postby Tyler » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:21 pm

I think this is out on streaming. I'll try watching tomorrow instead of playing Shadows of War
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Postby cwilkins88 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:05 pm

This movie was really good. Vince is a convincing badass

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Re: S. Craig Zahler's (Bone Tomahawk) Brawl In Cell Block 99, starring Vince Vaughn

Postby Tyler » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:12 pm

Is this gore porn like a Saw movie?
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Postby Tyler » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:11 am

Corey and wilkins need to fight. Corey said Brawl is way more graphic, but Wilkins said bone tomahawk.

Like I asked, are these movies just gore porn, or is there more than that to keep you interested?
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Postby Corey » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:23 am

Tyler wrote:Corey and wilkins need to fight. Corey said Brawl is way more graphic, but Wilkins said bone tomahawk.

Like I asked, are these movies just gore porn, or is there more than that to keep you interested?
Bone Tomahawk definitely had the highest gore peak in the cave but I thought the rest went to Brawl.
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S. Craig Zahler's (Bone Tomahawk) Brawl In Cell Block 99, starring Vince Vaughn

Postby wags83 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:39 am

Tyler wrote:Source of the post Is this gore porn like a Saw movie?

Tyler wrote:Source of the post Like I asked, are these movies just gore porn, or is there more than that to keep you interested?

People who have seen these movies hate answering this question.
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S. Craig Zahler's (Bone Tomahawk) Brawl In Cell Block 99, starring Vince Vaughn

Postby cwilkins88 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:59 am

wags83 wrote:Source of the post
Tyler wrote:Source of the post Is this gore porn like a Saw movie?

Tyler wrote:Source of the post Like I asked, are these movies just gore porn, or is there more than that to keep you interested?

People who have seen these movies hate answering this question.


They are not gore porn. These movies are well put together, but it also puts a lot of emphasis on the violence. Brawl has several smaller scenes where the gore is intense, same as Bone Tomahawk, but the story stands on it's own, even without it.
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Re: S. Craig Zahler's (Bone Tomahawk) Brawl In Cell Block 99, starring Vince Vaughn

Postby Tyler » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:36 am

Thanks for answering my question! I wanted to make sure this wasn't a Saw
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Postby Tyler » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:30 am

I thought the movie was excellent. It was a lot like watching John Wick for the first time. Calm/quiet badass, straight-forward plot, well choreographed fight scenes, some cool "world" building. Like everyone else, I never thought of Vince Vaughn has a tough guy, but this movie completely changed my mind on that. He isn't build like The Rock, but his physical presence was intimidating in this.

Spoilers below!!
I went into this movie pretty cold other than what I heard from you guys about the violence. Corey/Wilkins had me convinced this was going to be 2+ hours of people getting their arms ripped off and heads stomped in. Does this happen? Yes, but less than 15% of this movie is of those gore scenes. In fact, I don't think Brad (it's Bradley) gets his assignment from the drug lord until nearly half way into the movie. Yes, those 4-5 scenes were extremely gory/creative, but I don't think it puts the movie at the top of the gore list. Side note: did he bear hug someone so hard he broke their spine? When he was fighting the guys in the yard there were so many bone cracking sounds.

The first half of this movie is slow and deliberate, and I enjoyed it just as much as the fight scenes. I thought the movie played with your expectations and tension really well. I automatically assumed Bradley was a horror guy and was going to go home and beat his wife after losing his job and learning that she was cheating on him. Clearly Bradley is a man with anger issues, but he decided to take it out on her car instead of her. Bradley is actually a very lovable drug runner and its easy to root for him during the movie, especially when he gives up his chance of escaping the shoot-out to save the cops.

I also thought the boat scene with Bradley and the two goons was outstanding. There was so much tension during all of that, and in the end things went perfectly fine, right up until they didn't listen to Bradley.

Like I said at the beginning, some of this movie's world building reminded me of John Wick. I really hope places like Cell Block 99 aren't used today, but I thought the setting was super interesting. A prison within a prison to hide the inmates that no one cares about. All super creepy and cool...as long as it's not real.

I didn't see the twist coming at the end. I kept thinking why does the drug lord want this specific guy dead if he is locked up? What risk is he at this point? When Bradley walked into the lounge and saw the drug lord I felt stupid for not seeing that coming, but there was no way of knowing the big thug from earlier survived the shootout.

I thought the whole setup of Bradley's situation was more horrifying than the violence he caused. His wife is kidnapped and his unborn child is going to be dismembered. He has to cause enough harm to (semi-)innocent guards to get put into an extremely dangerous part of the prison. If he causes too much harm he might be killed, but if he doesn't cause enough harm he might not be transferred right away meaning his wife is held captive longer.

Final thoughts:
I'm assuming the drug lord was paying the warden to allow him to visit Bradley and torture him? Why did the warden allow Bradley to kill the drug lord? The way Bradley was hiding behind the door there was no way he could have gotten into the cell without first exposing himself. The guards could have shot then. Also, the drug lord had to have known he was dead either way, I guess he figured it would be a less painful death if he allowed Bradley's family to live?

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Most unrealistic part of the movie: shimming up that slimy dock pole while soaking wet.
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S. Craig Zahler's (Bone Tomahawk) Brawl In Cell Block 99, starring Vince Vaughn

Postby cwilkins88 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:31 am

Tyler wrote:Source of the post Side note: did he bear hug someone so hard he broke their spine? When he was fighting the guys in the yard there were so many bone cracking sounds.


Is this not something you can do?
Tyler wrote:Source of the post Clearly Bradley is a man with anger issues, but he decided to take it out on her car instead of her. Bradley is actually a very lovable drug runner and its easy to root for him during the movie, especially when he gives up his chance of escaping the shoot-out to save the cops.


I honestly thought this was the best scene of the whole movie. He's been clearly betrayed and attacks the problem incredibly rationally and talks about his feelings and hers. I don't think most people can be this mature about a situation.
Tyler wrote:Source of the post I also thought the boat scene with Bradley and the two goons was outstanding. There was so much tension during all of that, and in the end things went perfectly fine, right up until they didn't listen to Bradley.


This was great too, but the goons were almost TOO dumb and TOO defiant. You knew shit was going down as soon as they defied him the first time. However, a lot of that may be because you already know he ends up in jail.
Tyler wrote:Source of the post When Bradley walked into the lounge and saw the drug lord I felt stupid for not seeing that coming, but there was no way of knowing the big thug from earlier survived the shootout.


They just really wanted to mess Bradley up for screwing them over.

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